Challenge of the week: assert a boundary.
It was a rough weekend and the new week isn’t any more smooth.
I decide to just take care of myself and let the crises in my life sort themselves out. I order the medium instead of the default small. I let the dishes sit over night. I get a massage.
So I’m sitting on the subway, dazed in the after-glow of my first ever registered-massage-therapy-somewhat-subsidized-by-my-benefits-package-type massage. I’m foggy and loving it. My troubles are now merely hovering around me rather than burning and festering within.
I’m crumpled up, leaning against the window, staring out into the dark concrete rushing by. I’m wondering how long the massage-glow would last, how often could I go back before the end of the calendar year, and whether my partner could learn some of the technique. (Seriously, the therapist did this thing where she crammed her fist into my shoulder blade and then pushed my muscle all the way up to her elbow. Bliss.)
The train screams to a halt, and soon two guys sit down perpendicular to me. One instantly swings around and says “Hi.” They don’t scare me or seem particularly threatening. They remind me of the kind of goofy guys I grew up with. Harmless. Still, I do a quick scan of the car: locating the best exit, finding an empty seat I could move to, deciding which stranger might take my side if I needed back up, figuring how I’d handle it if I got off at the next stop and they followed. No biggie, just the usual “I’m out alone” drill.
Hi Guy seems a little tipsy, or just hyper, and starts to tell me some facts about him and his friend and their day, like I’d be all impressed and think he was really witty and charming.
Face still in hand, I don’t move a muscle except to turn my eyes his way. I aim for a neutral or maybe slightly less-than-amused expression. No questions. No giggling. No polite nods of affirmation. No fake interest or games to get me through until my stop.
Essentially I chart new territory.
Despite my lack of response, he tries harder to interact with me. He starts asking me about my day, how I’m feeling, where I’m going.
Without moving, I hear myself calmly, quietly, but firmly say: “I don’t want to talk to you.”
“Huh?” He looks genuinely shocked.
“I don’t feel like talking to you.”
The simple, terrifying, liberating truth.
He rolls his eyes, spins away, mutters to his friend that people in the city aren’t friendly and some girls are quiet on the subway and his friend is telling him to stop being so annoying.
I blank back out into the void, waiting for the surge of adrenaline, the fall out, the event that will have me running for the exit. But it doesn’t come. There was no way this doofus was going to crash my post-somewhat-insured-fist-to-elbow-awesomeness massage vibe.
I wouldn’t always feel safe enough to be blunt like that. There are times when my instincts would tell me that escaping is the best bet, or that I should play along until there is an easy, inoffensive way out of there. But why the hell should I sacrifice my peace and spend my limited energy because some dude decides it looks like fun to talk to me? For the first time I can remember, I opted not to be nice.
So yeah, I wouldn’t always put up such a clear, unmistakable boundary, but this time I did. And he backed off. I asserted myself, and I got exactly what I needed.
Maybe I’ll try it again.


Digg
seven comments
That's a great post Erin. :)
I'm glad they didn't ruin your massage buzz. And you made me laugh in recognition, you captured the experience so well.
"Being nice" can be so tricky. I'm all for friendliness and being polite. But sometimes the pressure to 'be nice' unfairly overrules your right to your own space.
Super suck, but I've found that when I politely try and end an asking-for-directions-or-the-time-turned-chat-up, it's not respected and they just push through. As though by being polite I'm somehow not being serious. And godforbid you smile.
Now I either keep walking while answering or am just blunt -- often saying something very similar to what you did. Which, by the way, I don't think wasn't "nice". It was just clear and direct.
Do you think if you heard a guy say the same thing you'd think he wasn't being nice? What if he said "hey buddy, I don't feel like talking to you"? Or what if it was women talking to (at) a guy, and he said it? It's pretty fascinating how the same words can be interpreted completely differently depending on who's doing the saying.
Posted by Catherine
August 28, 2008, 2:31 PM
Hey, I just had one of those moments too!
I was carrying my bike over the curb outside my house when the quick-release wheel decided to quick-release itself and plopped off the bike. Immediately a guy appeared and asked if I needed help. (It always amazes me how dudes seem to materialize out of thin air every time I have the minorest bike problem. Do they follow me around and wait for something to go wrong? Why aren't they around when, say, my sewing machine breaks down?)
Maybe you read my entry for the Kickaction blogging carnival, where I talked about the random guy who, in the interest of "fixing" my wheel, totally effed up my gear shift mechanism. Needless to say, I'm a little wary of offers of help. And, if you can believe it, I actually LIKE figuring out how things work and putting things together myself, especially when it involves my bike, which is about as close to a part of my body as something can get without surgery.
So I politely said no thanks. He looked incredulous, and said "Really? Are you sure? C'mon!" I smiled and said the last person who offered help ended up breaking the thing and I could handle it just fine, thanks. He threw up his hands and walked away, going "Whoaaaa..." (Subtext: Crazy bitch, go ahead and kill yourself, no skin off my upper lip.)
Sigh. The thing that gets me is that I have a nagging feeling of residual badness, thinking I should have been more polite, let him fix it, something. I guess the real battle is always WITHIN. (Thanks, Deepak Chopra.)
Posted by Anna
August 28, 2008, 4:52 PM
Kudos to you for this post, Erin! And Catherine, I agree with you completely. It seems that a lot of the time, men who do this really don't understand, or don't want to understand, that women are not obligated to have conversations or give them time and attention. It can be a very difficult thing to tell them to go away: there's all the social conditioning about "being nice," as well as the underlying apprehension that refusing to talk will result in an unsafe situation.
It took me a long time to learn to deal with these situations myself. They still scare me from time to time. I do take the direct route these days, though. I will say "I don't want to talk to you" or "leave me alone." I will keep walking. I've told myself that the guy who is bothering me isn't concerned about my feelings, and is invading MY personal space and comfort zone, and I shouldn't feel at all badly about protecting that.
Posted by Denise
August 28, 2008, 6:06 PM
I cherish the freedom to be able to make that decision. I'm often out and about alone at night and recently had the exact same situation happen to me at a Pizza Pizza. It was around 1am and I wasn't drunk, I had just worked a late shift and wanted to go get pizza to take home, when a drunk guy and his buddy try chatting me up and blah blah blah and I tell them almost the exact same thing, that I didn't want to talk to them, I just wanted my pizza.
They kept pushing and I was repeating myself and some random other girl came over in the middle of this and they shifted over to her. Luckily she had heard my line and used it on them. They were floored and one of them got slightly ANGRY that we wouldn't humour him, it was a little scary actually. The other guy pulled him away. But I felt really right in my judgement. Usually its safer to play along but I felt I was right in my space and power to tell him to leave me alone. I only hope more women can do the same.
Posted by Danielle
August 28, 2008, 8:26 PM
Erin, you responded perfectly to that situation. He was upfront and wanted to talk to you so you have the right to be upfront and tell him you're not interested.
Danielle, even if you were totally drunk you were still in the right. :) Amazing that women in 2008 who are out late at night by themselves are still required by society to qualify their actions. You were working late rather than out drinking. I would have absolutely said the same thing had I been writing your post, and if you hadn't made that statement we very possibly would have assumed you'd been out drinking. I think we have to continually challenge ourselves to remember that. :)
Posted by Nikita
August 29, 2008, 10:43 AM
I'm glad that you were able to assert yourself there. It's weird how social expectations differ so much from place to place, though; I'm from London, where completely blanking someone, or pointedly moving away, wouldn't be considered a rude or unusual thing for a woman to do to a male stranger; it's being engaged by people that's the frowned-upon rarity, not disengagement. I guess this is an example of how a gender problem can have different effects in different societies.
Posted by Thene
August 29, 2008, 1:04 PM
Kudos!
I wish I had the guts to do that...
maybe I will some day.
I often find myself in odd situations where strange men stop to talk to me.
I hate it, yet all I can bring myself to do is nod and act as vague as possible, in hopes maybe I seem like some dumb kid who isn't paying attention so they'll just give up.
I was sitting on a bench the other day, just sort of people watching,
when this short, fat, bald man stops and bends down,
"Hello!"
"...Hi..."
"Mind if I sit here?"
"uhh... sure..."
(He sits himself down a lot closer than necissary which makes me nervous),
He starts talking to me about my shoes... and how he's a painter and he's painting someone's house and he can't find the right shade of green and he lives out blah blah blah movies blah blah blah batman blah blah blah.
I certainly don't think all old men are pedophiles, or dislike friendly banter, but I find myself wondering what a middle aged man sees in talking to an obviously not interested 14 year old girl.
I continue acting like a stoner and not really paying attention and eventually he gives up. His friendliness turns to frustration with my apparent lack of brain cells and he leaves.
I should have just said I wasn't interested and saved myself 15 minutes of discomfort.
Posted by sarah
August 31, 2008, 9:18 PM
Leave a comment
Our comment policy
Shameless prides itself on the diversity of opinions expressed by our writers, and we encourage and appreciate different points of view. Our intention at Shameless is to foster community and to maintain a safe and positive blogging environment; we do not consider it our duty to give a voice to anybody with an opinion.
Discussion on this site is moderated. We will delete comments that:
(We get to decide what's discriminatory, hateful, attacking, or inflammatory).
In some cases, we will cap off comments on a discussion when we feel they are spiralling out of control and fostering an unwelcoming space for bloggers and readers. Comments will be closed by the Web Editor, unless the post is by the Web Editor, in which case the Editor in Chief will close them.
If your comments repeatedly make the same point, they may be deleted. This also applies to comments made by multiple members of the same organization.
Your comments should be about the topic of the post, not its writer—although we certainly encourage praise for our writers, if you want to say something nice.