I probably don’t need to tell you that size acceptance / fat acceptance (SA/FA) has lots of opponents. One would think it’s hard to argue that feeling good about yourself is a bad thing, but I’ve encountered a surprising (and disappointing) number of people who think that fat people having high self-esteem is dangerous – they might actually dare to stay fat! The horror!
These people are often of the opinion that fat is gross, and that’s all there is to it. This belief is impossible to counter, since personal aesthetics are just that – personal. But why do other people get to decide whether how you look is acceptable or not? As I explained in my last post, SA/FA makes the very important “personal autonomy” argument: the way your body looks is no one’s business but your own. You do not owe it to anyone to be attractive to them.
The other main argument made by opponents to SA/FA is that fat is unhealthy. Kate Harding at Shapely Prose provides a fabulous overview, complete with links, explaining why this correlation just isn’t as black-and-white as people think. The main points I’m going to discuss from her list are that 1) fat is not an accurate indicator of the way people treat their bodies or their state of health, and 2) diets don’t work.
People are built differently, and weight is largely genetic (within a range). There is a popular assumption that fat people must spend their time munching on donuts and watching TV while their asses grow bigger. In fact, there are fat athletes, fat vegans, fat health fanatics … you get the picture. Of course, there are also fat people who eat poorly and don’t exercise. Fat people are constantly advised to eat more healthfully, eat less, and exercise more, no matter what their current behaviours or health measurables (blood sugar, blood pressure, etc.) are.
Conversely, everyone knows someone who subsists primarily on junk food, is a couch potato, and is thin. These people are considered “lucky.” Why aren’t they constantly told to eat better and exercise? Because they’re thin. Too many health professionals and members of the general population use the Body Mass Index (BMI) as the be-all, end-all of health determination, even though the BMI was never intended to be such a rigid guide and is generally accepted to be badly flawed. For a visual representation of how bizarre the BMI standards are, check out Kate’s BMI Project.
Even if fat were in itself a health concern, there’s a pretty major obstacle to overcoming it: no one has figured out a safe, long-term method of making a fat person thin. There’s also some pretty strong evidence that yo-yo dieting, or weight cycling, is more harmful than maintaining a consistent higher weight. It’s often said that 95% of diets fail over a five-year period. As a former chronic yo-yo dieter, I can attest to this first-hand. I never maintained weight loss for longer than a year at a time, sometimes even gaining weight while still dieting (I point this out to combat the argument that I must have simply stopped practicing “good behaviours” and let the weight come back on. Not so much). Since giving up dieting, my weight has settled within ten pounds of what I weighed before my first diet. Coincidence … ?


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I disagree with you almost entirely.
Posted by J Runi
November 7, 2009, 12:36 PM
But why do you disagree? Could you please give some detail to that?
I think there's a lot of hard truths in this, namely that there is an undeniable social perception of fat, and no matter how or why a person is fat, they are still just FAT in the eyes of so many. I've known far too many stick-figure skinny people who have zero athletic capabilities when put up against their fat counterparts, and it's simply because though they might be thin, they are far less active and healthy than the person standing next to them who happens to be sporting some extra pounds on their frame.
Another aspect of this that rings true is the detail about yo-yo dieting. But to take it in a different direction, most just worry about the physical downfall to that happening, when the psychological effects on a person - especially one who has been struggling with their weight for a long time - can be far more devastating if you constantly rely on a diet only to bounce back into a harder position than you were before.
Sure, there are a lot of unhealthy fat people out there, but the key is that the distinction has to be made in places like the medical profession, where not all fat people are the same, and certainly not all health problems and risks can be associated to two different people just because they've got a similar BMI (which is a total joke - I'm 5'7", 160 pounds with a lot of muscle in my frame and the damn thing tells me I'm too big for my body type. Frak that).
Great post.
Posted by Andrew
November 7, 2009, 4:07 PM
Thanks for your perspective, Andrew. Always nice to see a male feminist around. :)
J. Runi, great. Disagreement is fine. Anything to add to that?
Posted by Julia
November 7, 2009, 4:11 PM
One time when I was in university, someone was commenting on a group of people in the Phys Ed program. She said, "why are all the girls in physical education so...... fat?" In that case, it was pretty easy to explain that there wasn't as strong a correlation between fitness and size as everyone thinks.
It's still a struggle to explain it to the majority of the population, when in the same year you have Toronto newspapers running one story showing the image of the ideal runner (with a larger frame than is currently socially acceptable) and another citing scientists who say that 'fat people in shape are more at risk than skinny people, so dieting is still valid'.
As far as achieving personal (body) acceptance is concerned, I believe it's largely a cultural matter. One of my friends was from a country where people tend to have smaller frames, so my friend was stuck buying the largest size of clothes possible. After moving here (Canada), my friend found that they were average sized, if not smaller. The notion that this person was considered 'large' at one point has probably never occurred to anyone (though who knows how much of that remains internalized in my friend).
Posted by Steve
November 8, 2009, 10:06 AM
Love this. Just wrote a letter to "Excalibur" York's Keele campus newspaper about this very issue (An article was warning against the "Freshman 15" which are actually really more like the freshman 6, if that. I'm one of those "lucky" ones you speak of, who happens to look fine even though my lifestyle is remarkably sedentary. I hate to admit it, but I'll push myself here. I'm just too busy with school work hurdles and the kinds of fun I'm more used to to take on fitness as another thing to get done. I don't have the luxury. And to be honest I don't have the will. It just was never my thing and I'm sick of the feeling that I'm immoral and deserve to be fat as some sort of physical manifestation of my choices. There. It's out. If you think I'm as bad as a smoker who can't quit then, darn it, I take sides with the smokers.
Posted by Myra
November 9, 2009, 10:02 PM
Hey, Julia!! It's me, from CFC!!!
I actually only started reading about size-acceptance when you put me onto the topic and I have read the Shapely Prose blog from your recommendation before. I actually learned a lot and paid closer attention to people openly making comments about people's weight loss and weight gain with no shame.
You're completely right that people have no right to think they could make comments about people's bodies. I love the "Oh, you've lost so much weight, you look so good!!!", especially when you thought there was nothing wrong with your original size to start off with. Now, what can be construed as a compliment really isn't when you think about it. Cause, that's happened to me, and in my head, I thought "WTF, did you think something was wrong with me before?" It might seem like I"m being oversensitive, but I'm not. It's a legitimate wonder with people and their dumb ass comments and the IMPLICATIONS behind those comments. It's the ideas as to why being smaller is automatically seen as healthier or attractive.
I think I'm rambling, but love the post!!!
Posted by Tonya
November 12, 2009, 2:41 AM
Thanks, everyone, for your comments!
@Steve: I'm definitely going to touch on cultural/racial intersectionality in a future post. Thanks for the perspective.
@Myra: One of the dividing forces in the SA/FA movement is the "good fatty/bad fatty" dichotomy. There are people who believe it's acceptable to be fat only if you live a super-healthy lifestyle, and are still fat in spite of it. Lots of other people say this is unfair, and that no matter what your lifestyle, you deserve to be respected as a person. I'm of that opinion, too. You don't have to feel guilty for not liking exercise. It's your life, no one else's.
@Tonya: Absolutely! People seem to think they have the right to comment on other people's bodies, in any way. Guess what? "Wow, you're so skinny!" isn't necessarily a compliment! My husband has a chronic disease that makes keeping weight on very difficult. People have no right to think they can judge your health based on the changing size of your body.
Posted by Julia
November 12, 2009, 12:34 PM
what a great starting point. i think this was a critical moment for me to better understand my own body and how we, especially in north america for the past few decades, have become obsessed with the idea that fat = unhealthy. once we can move past this point which takes up so much space in size/fat acceptance discussions, we can really get into much more interesting discussions and potential solutions. meeting people in university who cooked and ate with me, biked with me, worked with me and seeing the (lack of) difference in our habits and the dramatic difference in our sizes was finally the moment when i realized i had totally been brainwashed by this bullshit idea that thin = healthy.
i know you only have a limited word count to talk about this very broad issue but since someone else suggested you talk about cultural/racial intersectionality, i think it is also important to focus on the different ways differently gendered fat bodies are shamed, as well as looking at how class/ability factor into these discussions. if you have any resources/books that speak about these intersections to recommend, i would really love it!
Posted by julia
November 16, 2009, 6:53 PM
Class and ability are coming up next! Thanks!
Posted by Julia
November 17, 2009, 9:25 AM
A friend of mine trained for and ran a half-marathon, and he said he noticed no significant chance in his weight during the training period (though he did say his ice-cream intake increased, because "I was SO HUNGRY all the time!). He's a husky guy and in terrific shape. I'm "normal" size and in okay shape, but no way could I run 26 k without ending up in a coma. In fact, most of the serious runners I know are on the bigger side... they're all hot babes, and if commercial beauty was measured by mileage rather than inches around the waist, they'd be supermodels.
Posted by Anna
November 24, 2009, 6:12 PM
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